"Well, there is a difference - the Kayani brothers are implicated in financial irregularities and not personal indiscretions and secondly the accusation is that these irregularities were strengthened as it were when Brother Kayani was the CoAS."
"That's not fair and..."
"Fair or foul that's the way the cookie is crumbling for the Brothers Kayani."
"But how is it the former CoAS's fault? I mean I am not my brother's keeper."
"No but..."
"There is no but, besides you can attack the former CoAS for his actions as CoAS."
"I don't understand."
"The Raymond Davis fiasco remember - the guy killed two Pakistani nationals in Lahore in broad daylight and he was escorted out of the country reportedly by the army under the leadership of Kayani after a deal was brokered between the heirs of those killed and the US government, then he got his ISI chief to publicly acknowledge that the army was caught sleeping when the US Marines raided Abbottabad and that they were not complicit in hiding bin Laden but were simply incompetent in not knowing where he was, and last but not least he accepted an extension, though there are two opinions about whether he was offered the extension or he asked for the extension thereby setting a bad precedence..."
"And don't forget the man actually brokered the National Reconciliation Ordinance between BB and Musharraf - a document that was later declared null and void by the Supreme Court."
"Indeed, and so my friend how is it important that he may or may not have been used by his brothers, with or without his knowledge, to get some lucrative contracts...."
"Remember what Thatcher said when she was accused of using her position to get her son a lucrative contract from a Middle Eastern country? She reportedly said wouldn't you help your son?"
"Ah yes, but no one pays for incompetence in this country - not our ministers, not the bureaucrats, not the military leadership - now if its corruption..."
"Don't be facetious, but first I would advise the Brothers Kayani to return to Pakistan..."
"I hear physical remand is very taxing on the back."
"What?"
"Isn't that what all our politicians complain of when the law enforcement agencies get their physical remand? That they are suffering from a severe back ache?"
"Hmmm."